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June 10, 2025
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194
63:18
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Brand isn't dead, the 95:5 rule & why AI is B2B's most powerful painkiller - Jon Lombardo and Peter Weinberg

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The B2B boys Jon Lombardo and Peter Weinberg return to the podcast for a third time, this time wearing their new distinctive assets. They go hard on Professor Scott Galloway, disagreeing with his "brand is dead" statement, suggesting that not only is brand not dead, it's alive, thriving and you need it for your brand to survive. They also give us an update on their synthetic research company, Evidenza, and what the future of brands look like in the age of AI.

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Timestamps

00:00

Intro

02:07

How is Evidenza going?

03:36

Why Evidenza have embraced distinctive assets

08:29

Why Jon and Peter disagree with Scott Galloway on brand

17:20

The future of brand in the age of AI

21:21

The 95:5 rule reinvented

27:48

Why brand efforts compound

30:00

Why brand matters more in B2B than B2C

38:49

The Evidenza jingle

41:03

What marketing questions can now be answered with AI

55:17

What is the future of AI for research