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March 19, 2025
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Oreo’s playful positioning, bold innovation and brand partnerships - Eugenia Zalis

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Today Jon talks with Eugenia Zalis, CMO for one of the most iconic sweet brands in the world, Oreo. We talk about their "stay playful" positioning, incredible brand collaborations (with the likes of Coca-Cola and Post Malone) and some of the interesting innovations the brand has worked on.

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Timestamps

00:00

Intro

00:46

Eugenia’s marketing journey

01:33

What can we learn from the Unilever approach to marketing?

02:27

How Dove turned into the brand it is today

05:42

How Eugenia started with Oreo

06:33

The “stay playful” positioning

09:49

The best way to eat an Oreo cookie

11:08

Managing a 110 year old brand

12:14

The Oreo playbook for marketing in different regions

15:18

Oreo’s collab with Coca-Cola

18:49

Oreo’s approach to innovation

21:14

System1 testing on Oreo innovations

23:40

Innovations from around the world

25:23

The surprising Coca-Cola collaboration

25:52

Oreo’s SuperBowl ad in 2024

28:34

Winning a Cannes Lion for a tweet

30:34

Why is humour not used more

35:37

Oreo x Post Malone collab

38:07

Creative process for collabs

39:02

How to lead a $4.5b organisation

43:57

Advice to aspiring CMOs