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April 8, 2025
Ep.
185
51:17
MIN

Rory Sutherland on why marketing is the answer to economic growth

Rory Sutherland
/
Vice Chairman
/
Ogilvy UK

Rory Sutherland returns to the Uncensored CMO podcast, tackling the economic crisis with his signature wit and wisdom. As ever, he offers a refreshingly unconventional perspective on the world’s biggest problems — and marketing’s role in solving them.In this episode, Rory explores why marketing is more like a casino than a science, how to capitalise on your competitors’ blind spots, and what his unexpected TikTok fame has taught him. Expect laughs, left-field insights, and the kind of brilliantly bizarre anecdotes only Rory can deliver.

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Creators and guests

Jon Evans
Host

Jon Evans

Host of Uncensored CMO
Guest

Rory Sutherland

Vice Chairman
at
Ogilvy UK

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Timestamps

00:00

Intro

01:03

Are we looking in the wrong place for growth?

05:33

Should we slow down our adoption of AI?

09:08

What marketers and the police have in common

14:40

Marketing is a casino

17:42

The most transformative behavioural science insights

19:47

Take what your competition are doing badly and double down on it

26:20

Fame is a luck multiplier

32:43

Why AO add bears to every order

37:19

How Rory would boost growth in the economy?

47:13

What has Rory been profoundly wrong about and why